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  Is there anything wrong with "United in Worship" book?

  by Albert Einstein in

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  few months ago in my country (eastern europe) a letter was read in congregation, that the "united in worship of the only true god" (the blue book people studied as a second book after "you can live forever"...) is updated an replaced by another book and all publishers should bring their copies to elders.

  the reason presented was that brothers (due to efficiency) want to recykle the books ecologicaly (iam not making this up).

  it was literally said, that all books should be taken to the kh and not a single copy should be kept home.. when my mil told us that (we were not going to meetings at that time already with my wife) i told her, that as far as i know brothers do not have any recykling facility and if they do and want to be ecological, they should ask for all updatet publications, not just for this book.

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  Tito: its Czech republic

  Sir : I wonder if there are potential problems with blood transfusion lawsuits in your country, and the WTS is trying to bury evidence that might be used against it?

  I think this might be the case.

  Albert
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  Is there anything wrong with "United in Worship" book?

  by Albert Einstein in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  few months ago in my country (eastern europe) a letter was read in congregation, that the "united in worship of the only true god" (the blue book people studied as a second book after "you can live forever"...) is updated an replaced by another book and all publishers should bring their copies to elders.

  the reason presented was that brothers (due to efficiency) want to recykle the books ecologicaly (iam not making this up).

  it was literally said, that all books should be taken to the kh and not a single copy should be kept home.. when my mil told us that (we were not going to meetings at that time already with my wife) i told her, that as far as i know brothers do not have any recykling facility and if they do and want to be ecological, they should ask for all updatet publications, not just for this book.

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  Albert Einstein

  Few months ago in my country (Eastern Europe) a letter was read in congregation, that the "United in Worship of the only true God" (the blue book people studied as a second book after "You can Live Forever"...) is updated an replaced by another book and all publishers should bring their copies to elders. The reason presented was that brothers (due to efficiency) want to recykle the books ecologicaly (Iam not making this up). It was literally said, that all books should be taken to the KH and not a single copy should be kept home.

  When my MIL told us that (we were not going to meetings at that time already with my wife) I told her, that as far as I know brothers do not have any recykling facility and if they do and want to be ecological, they should ask for ALL updatet publications, not just for this book. She was confused, but obediently took her copy and gave it to the elders.

  Shortly after we visited a KH in my area and we really saw many used UW books being pilled up in the back of the hall.

  Do you have any information on that? We have in my country recently several legal issues with JW, so is it just local problem or something in your area is happening as well with this book?

  Albert
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  Moldova - Baby drowned by priest during baptism VIDEO

  by Albert Einstein in

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  what do you think about this?.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mty2bfs4blc&feature=player_embedded#!.

  albert.

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  A silent, Iam afraid you are wrong. It is the actual video and the baby is dead ....

  Albert
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  what was the worst advice given to you while you were a JW ?

  by wasblind in

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  mine's was, if your job interfere with the meetings you have to decide who you will choose,.

  serving jehovah or serving man, if anyone knew my needs it most definitely was jehovah.

  and he knew i needed my job to eat.

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  Before 1996:

  Dont go to serve alternative service, its better for you to go to prison.

  If you serve alternative service (cleaning in a hospital) you violate Bible laws on neutrality.

  Albert
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  Moldova - Baby drowned by priest during baptism VIDEO

  by Albert Einstein in

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  what do you think about this?.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mty2bfs4blc&feature=player_embedded#!.

  albert.

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  What do you think about this?

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtY2BFs4BLc&feature=player_embedded#!

  Albert
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  John Barr - Last of the GB 1.0

  by Soldier77 in

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  so any word on his health lately?

  what has he been actively doing at bethel?

  any inside scoop?.

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  When J. Barr was in my country 15 years ago at the international convention, I had the "priviledge" to be an interpretor of his talk in my language. For this reason we had met for rehearsals few times during the convention (together with the other translators - german, polish etc..)

  He was really very friendly guy, thouhgh he was quite old alredy. So nice, smiling and friendly .... I couldnt imagine him to make or push some decision, he was just smiling and agreeing on everything, it seemed to me he is overshadowed by the others GB members (Ted Jaracz was travelling with him to the convention and he was the very opposite personality...).

  Albert
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  Getting my children out

  by God_Delusion in

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  my wife is still in and no matter what logic i show her, she still wants to continue with the cult.

  for me, she's a lost cause.

  i explained the 607 factor and her reaction to that was "well, that isn't important to me as i still believe, plus, there's no where else for me to go.".

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  Confli: show no threat to your wife

  Great point! People around your wife will be telling her you might/want to break your family. (My wife did think I wanted to do it, when I started speaking "apostate stuff". Tell her you love her, you love the family, you do not want to break it, that you have confidence in the Bible (if this is the case).

  BTW, it will be probably easier for you to help your wife if you will keep reading the Bible and talk about spiritual things...., than if you would become an atheist all of sudden.

  Albert
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  Getting my children out

  by God_Delusion in

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  my wife is still in and no matter what logic i show her, she still wants to continue with the cult.

  for me, she's a lost cause.

  i explained the 607 factor and her reaction to that was "well, that isn't important to me as i still believe, plus, there's no where else for me to go.".

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  My wife is still in and no matter what logic I show her, she still wants to continue with the cult.

  The stupid mistake I did, was the same: I was using logic to explain my wife she lives in a destructive cult instead of a spiritual paradise. I couldnt undersatnd why she does not get it, if I bring so many logical points.... What an idiot I was....

  Work more with emotions, help her first to admit, that:

  1) The life we have "in last days" is not that bad... (what other century would you like to live in?)

  2) Governing body makes serious mistakes, that afect lifes of rank and file JW, .... is this fair?

  3) Governing body makes serious mistakes, and never admits them (was this an attitude of early chiristians?)

  4) "Worldly people" are not that bad, actually if you get to know them, they are nice

  5) Every child should have a real freedom of choice when it comes to religion (as well as marriage, job....) Does anyone has a right to pre-plan that for kids? (How do you understand real freedom of choice?)

  etc...

  Good luck man!

  Albert
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  Getting my children out

  by God_Delusion in

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  my wife is still in and no matter what logic i show her, she still wants to continue with the cult.

  for me, she's a lost cause.

  i explained the 607 factor and her reaction to that was "well, that isn't important to me as i still believe, plus, there's no where else for me to go.".

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  Hi GD,

  I have very similar story. My wife was raised in an ultra hard core JW family, we have 3 kids (8,1,1).

  It took 1,5 years of explaining to get to the point, that my wife has no problem missing meetings, she see the manipulation has no problem when I teach our son about cults and explain JW are a cult.

  What you need is a:

  1) good plan

  2) meet your wife with nice "wordly people" and help her to make friends out of JW cult

  3) patience, patience, patience....

  BTW - great turning point for my wife was reading a book ESCAPE by Carolyn Jessop - its a life story of a girl raised up as a fundamental mormon, how she managed to free herself from the cult with her kids.

  JW should have no problem to read it, since it is about "false religion", but when you read it, you see incredible similarities in manipulation of rank and file memebers as well as within the the family.... Strongly recomeneded for JW!!!

  Albert
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  A riddle my brother gave me today

  by bohm in

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  a man has 2 children.

  he tells you one is a boy born on a tuesday.

  what is the probability the other is a boy to?.

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  BTW Bohm, my wife have made tremendous progress! Started reading books from other religions and admits, they are better then from JW...!

  I hope your family situation is getting better as well...

  Albert